there is a third-party candidate who may impact the race a little bit. the third party can that is running as a conservative. that may impact the outcome. the more conservative voters are coming home for romney and the liberal voters for obama. you have distinctions geographically. what will matter for obama is enthusiasm. you have a large number of people that are not from virginia. they have to go to some trouble to registered to vote. you have young college students. all these issues point to the question of enthusiasm. for obama to do as well, he needs to rekindle that enthusiasm. this is one of the challenges that the obama team faces, not just in virginia. host: this is johnny. caller: thank you. when the candidates campaign there, in other times you do not see the long shot to get an idea of what kind of crowds they are drawing. what types of crowds of the candidates getting when a campaign? -- when they campaign. the second question had to do with the ground game. what type of ground game do you see obama and the romney people virginia? host: bot